洪磊:番茄花园如何捆绑流氓软件月入十万

洪磊:番茄花园如何捆绑流氓软件月入十万

  

  8月21日消息,新浪科技20日独家获得了一份番茄花园版Windows XP作者洪磊与好友的两年前的聊天录音,洪磊在其中谈及了番茄花园发展的历程、详细解析了番茄花园依靠捆绑流氓软件月入10余万元的盈利模式,并披露了修改版XP操作系统行业的诸多内幕。

  新浪科技20日独家披露的洪磊被拘报道,在软件产业、PC行业及互联网等领域引发了轩然大波。20日下午,洪磊的好友郑朝辉向新浪科技独家提供了一段他和洪磊聊天的录音。这段录音录于2006年9月、长度为27分钟。郑朝辉说,这段录音原本是用于他所在的第一万维网(北京神州商通网络科技公司)内部交流学习,现在洪磊遇到困难,他愿意独家授权新浪科技将它公诸于众。

  根据我国的法律,未经许可修改他人软件,如果没有因此获利,定罪较为困难。番茄花园在其网站上的版权声明中也表示,他们并不提供任何出售光盘,完全供用户免费下载。一些用户为洪磊喊冤,觉得番茄花园只是“替罪羊”,他本身并没有因此获利。用过番茄花园的用户都发现,他的操作系统捆绑了易趣插件及雅虎助手,但他是否因此获利不能妄下结论。

  在新浪科技独家获悉的这份录音资料中,洪磊自己披露,他每月因此获利10余万元,并且他自己心里清楚“让微软知道了你在利用这个赚钱,他肯定会找你”。

  洪磊在录音资料中称,番茄花园在2006年时的盈利模式有三种:一,番茄花园网站的点击广告;二,洪磊通过自己的网站提供包括XP美化包在内的软件下载,这些软件中捆绑了流氓软件,洪磊因此每月获利两三万元;三,通过预装在番茄花园版的流氓软件,为广告主带去流量或注册用户,每月由此获利10余万元。

  值得注意的是,本录音发生在2006年9月,已经有近两年的时间。对于互联网行业而言,两年足以发生巨变,比如后来爆发的对流氓软件的讨伐及清理,因此,此两人谈话提及的状况不代表番茄花园现状,如他的收入可能早已不是月入10万级别,可能暴涨过,也可能骤减过。

  以下根据洪磊的聊天录音以第一人称的方式进行改写,话题先后顺序有调整,但均忠实于洪磊聊天的原意,小标题为编者所加。

  番茄花园的成长历程

  番茄花园网站和下载以前的访问量小,我都是挂在你(指郑朝辉所在的第一万维网)那里的,用的是虚拟主机,原来我是2M(兆)的带宽,后来增加到5M,要是不限制带宽,完全放开下载的话,我估计需要20M带宽,限制了就10多兆,我的软件(指番茄花园版Win XP)下载从你那撤走后,基本就只需要1到2M的带宽了。

  我当时算了一下,在你那放着时,每月有3到5万独立IP,那时只靠网站的广告获得收入,非常的少,服务器都买不起,后来我和易趣及雅虎合作搞捆绑后,收入增长很快,在今年(2006年)一二月的时候,当时每月收入才2万多,我攒了10万块,我就买了一台服务器,我记得配置是英特尔奔腾4 3.0 GHz的CPU,内存是1GB的。我自己换了服务器后,发现半个月后就达到了7万独立IP。

  很快,每天的独立IP就达到了15万,同时在线人数有6000人,后来达到独立IP数25万了,服务器的CPU经常负载达到90%多,CPU受不了了。我现在就把论坛服务器和下载服务器分开,我在苏州租了一个服务器放论坛程序,自己买了个服务器用作下载,放到了成都。

  苏州的百兆独立带宽每月是1800块,机位费是一个月3000,打个八折,算下来是2400,全部算下来不贵。我自己买的服务器是惠普的,我记得惠普当时的网站报价是21999,我后来花了20600买的,英特尔至强双路的处理器、2GB的内存,现在的同时在线人数最高13000人,处理器占有率是45%,足够了,带宽最高达到50M,白天一般是35M。论坛的独立IP每天是3万,现在我每天全部的独立IP是40万,论坛只有下载的十分之一。

  网址导航站9991.com的老板去年从上海来找我(洪磊位于江苏苏州),他们提出想全部或部分收购我的网站和软件。他们主要想要我的主业(指番茄花园版Win XP),我的网站还归我管,他们想把tomatolei.com做出一个网址导航站,他们还承诺帮我推广,我现在的独立IP是40万,他们说有信心、有能力做到100万甚至更高,翻几倍,但我的网站不能涉足其他的内容了。他们愿意每月付我4万,一直付24个月,然后整个公司30%股份归我,他们要70%。我当时没答应。他们后来又找我,4万直接变8万,就是每月给我8万,其他条件不变。我后来还是不愿意,就算第三年每月能拿50万,我的网站不归我全权管理了,这不是我想要的。

  现在我每月有十几万的收入,主要来自主业(即番茄花园版XP),XP美化包每月有两三万,网站点击广告带来的收入很少。

  做论坛赚不了钱

  你问我现在做什么能赚钱,比较难说,我觉得,要做大的话,还是得争取人气,争取用户。就像迅雷,前段时间有人对他们投资3000万美金,他就是掌握了用户,提供免费服务,有很好的人气,还有你像51.com,刚开始做的时候亏了很多钱,后来开始有收入,比如提供类似腾讯那样的衣服啊,靠这些可以收费。51.com还给一些大公司做广告,像卓越网啊,易趣网,你带去流量或消费,都可以获得收入。51现在有280万独立IP,每月可以赚200万。

  我觉得做论坛赚不了钱。论坛主要靠广告获得收入,我发现娱乐的广告点击量最多,大旗网你知道吗,他就是提供一些新闻、图片、搞笑类的东西,人气很好,我40万的独立IP,每天点击次数1万到1万五,每个点击一毛一,每天将近200块的收入。如果是电影广告,40万的独立IP,就只有三千人点击,相差五倍。电影的广告点击率0.9-1%左右,我以前也就是网上注册广告联盟,然后放代码到网站上。

  我现在的论坛,每天3万独立IP,1200人同时在线,平均150人点击,每千次40块钱,每天也就十几块钱,就算你放4个广告商的广告,每天也就五六十块钱收入,一月算下来才一千多块钱。

  捆绑流氓软件月入10余万元

  我现在每月的收入中,软件(指番茄花园版XP)有十几万块,网站的收入只有两三万。这里面不光是XP,我自己下载网站里面也有一些打包的软件,比如XP美化包,里面都有捆绑,这些都是默认安装的。这个美化包其他下载站也有转发,他每天的下载量很大的,每天有5000人次的下载。

  这些默认安装的软件,我现在就是雅虎助手和易趣网的插件,全部都是他们找我的,最开始是3721原来负责软件的找我,想看看捆绑的效果,后来是四川一家公司,他们是易趣的代理,最开始我也只是抱着试试看的心里,效果一个星期就出来了,并且是越来越好,越来越好。

  我现在的易趣插件,每天能给我带来70个用户注册。易趣它是按效果付费,用户注册了才算有效。雅虎助手的价格是搜索1000次给10块钱,全球那么多番茄花园XP都是我做的,日积月累,现在一年半的时间,差不多就是现在每月10多万的收入。

  自称并非行业老大

  全球那么多改版XP,很多都是我做的,我做了一年半的时间,日积月累,我自己之前都没有想到有这么多人用,说白了,就是XP光盘。有人说看到一个小县城卖改版光盘那里都有番茄花园版XP卖。

  番茄花园的名气比较大,其实我的量不是最大的,电脑公司装机版比我的量还要大。

  他(指电脑公司装机版XP作者“donghai”)在做捆绑插件之前,只从别人那里拿到过两次钱,每次200块,后来他看我做了捆绑后,效果非常不错,来问我,我介绍他做易趣,他拉到一个用户我也有1块钱的提成。

  他做三个月,量就比我大了,现在他每天为易趣带去100个注册用户,每月就这一项收入3万块,我做了一年半,现在每天才70个易趣注册用户,他的雅虎的搜索量也比我大,所以他的装机量比我大。

  微软“管不了”

  有一次我接到一个律师信,说我论坛一个帖子,是卖番茄花园版XP软件的,60块钱一套,他们就发律师信过来,说出售介质类的光盘是不允许的,叫我删除,我后来就删除了,他们还说谢谢合作,大概是说谢谢我配合他们的合作。在此之前,微软并没有找过我。

  其实微软现在也知道很多人修改他的东西,他没有去管,其实也管不了。

  我今天讲的这些数据不能对其他人说,因为第一别人会眼红,第二,让微软知道了你在利用这个赚钱,他肯定会找你的。
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